Questions 1-10

 

 

1.

It is an established fact that all things are recognised by their name, even Allah (swt) first taught names to the father of Mankind Adam (as). Your sect also has names such as Sunni, Ahl' ul Sunnah or Ahl'ul Sunnah wa al Jamaah. Direct us towards any such verse of the Qur'an wherein any of these names have been indicated.

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Allah has named the followers of His religion as Muslims. The Holy Quran mentions that Abraham and Ismail were Muslims (Surah 2, Verse 127-128). Similarly, Prophet Jesus and his disciples were also Muslims (Surah 5, Verse 111). Glad tidings have been given in the Holy Quran to the Muslims (Surah 16, Verse 89). With the passage of time, various sects started rising in the Muslim nation. The Kharijis, the Nasibis and the Shias were the few sects which we know from the history books in first century of the Hijrah. These groups had deviant beliefs, and to show dissociation from their deviant beliefs, the mainstream Muslims adopted the word Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah for themselves. Since the mainstream Muslims were following the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (s), unlike the deviant groups. Hence this name was adopted out of the circumstances that arose later on. Meanwhile the Shias think that they have been named as Shias in the Holy Quran. This is a contradiction, because as we mentioned earlier, the Holy Quran mentions glad tidings for the Muslims, but not the Shias. Moreover, the word Shia is not that much attractive that God would name His followers as Shias. Because the word Shia in Arabic means a group or party. Allah named His followers as Muslims i.e. those who submit (to God). Moreover, the term Shia has been used for the followers of the righteous people as well as the deviant people. In some verses, we find that the term Shia has been used in terms of condemnation (Surah al-Qisas, Verse 4, Surah Rome, Versee 32, Surah al-An'aam Verse 159, Surah al-An'aam Ver 65). The term Sunnah means the way of the Prophet (s). The mainstream Muslims started this term for themselves to show that they are following the sunnah of the Prophet (s) unlike the other deviant groups, who have become misguided in their beliefs. As I earlier said, this term was used as a result of the circumstances that happened later after the death of the Prophet (s). 

 

There is an interesting sermon in Nahjul Balagha i.e. Sermon 127 which needs to be mentioned here.

 

Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) said: Certainly you are the most evil of all persons and are those whom Satan has put on his lines and thrown out into his wayless land. With regard to me, two categories of people will be ruined, namely he who loves me too much and the love takes him away from rightfulness, and he who hates me too much and the hatred takes him away from rightfulness. The best man with regard to me is he who is on the middle course. So be with him and be with the great majority (of Muslims) because Allah's hand (of protection) is on al jama'ah ( الجماعة ). You should beware of division because the one isolated from the group is (a prey) to Satan just as the one isolated from the flock of sheep is (a prey) to the wolf.

 

 

Someone may say why have I replaced the word "keeping unity" with (al-jama'ah), the thing is the actual arabic word here is (al-jama'ah) which has been translated by the shias as "keeping unity".

The actual sentence in Arabic here is

 

 الزموا السواد الأعظم، فإنّ يدالله مع الجماعة

be with the great majority (of Muslims) because Allah's hand (of protection) is on al jama'ah

 

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, only one sect will go to heaven, People asked, which sect? The Prophet said (three times)

الجماعة, الجماعة ,  الجماعة

 

 

 

Book : Khisal, Page 375 (Urdu Edition)

Author : Shaikh Sadooq 

 

So we understand from this , that ahle sunnah wal jama'ah  are the people who are on the right path.

 

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said "The Ummah will be divided into 73 sects , all of them will go to hell except one". He was asked "Which sect is that one". Prophet (peace be upon him) said "That is the one on which I and my companions (ashaab) are"

 

Book : Maani Al Akhbar, Page 370 (Urdu Edition)

Author : Shaikh Sadooq

 

As far as the word shia is concerned, first of all the hadith is unauthentic, after that, we know that the ahlelbayt hated the shias, e.g

 

 

Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) said:

“O’ Kufa, if this is your condition that whirlwinds [of deciet] continue blowing through you, then Allah may destroy you…Your disobedience of your Imam in matters of right and their [the Syrian’s] obedience to their leader [Muawiyyah] in matters of wrong, their [the Syrian’s] fulfilment of the trust in favor of their master [Muawiyyah] and your betrayal, their good work in their cities and your mischief. Even if I give you charge of a wooden bowl I fear you would run away with its handle.”

Ali invokes Allah against his Shia:

“O my Allah, they are disgusted of me and I am disgusted of them. They are weary of me and I am weary of them. Change them for me with better ones”

https://www.al-islam.org/nahjul/25.htm

 

Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) want to change his shias because of their bad behaviour. So how can you claim that Shias of Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) will be successful, when the ahlelbayt were fed up of them in their own lives?

 

 

 

 

 

2.

If these titles cannot be located in the Qur'an could you produce this title from any hadith of the holy prophet (s)? Produce any such 'mutawatir' 'marfuu' or 'saheeh' narration from your books with a complete source (meaning the name of the book, version number, page number, edition etc) wherein the names Sunni, Ahl'ul Sunnah and Ahlul Sunnah wa al Jamaah have been mentioned by the holy prophet (saww) as a sect of Islam.

 

 

Apart from my answer to the first question, let me add that this question is based on a very wrong mindset of the Shia writer. He supposes that the Prophet (s) was fond of sectarianism, which is not our view. He did mention that there would be 73 sects, and only one sect will go to the heaven, and this is the sect which doesn't deviate from the path of the Prophet (s). In the Shia book Maani al-Akhbar, which is a compilation of Shia narrations by Shaikh Sadooq, it is mentioned regarding the one sect "That is the one on which I and my companions are". It means that it is not a new sect. It is the path of the mainstream Muslims from day one. Hence, he didn't name it but only mentioned the attributes of it. 

 

 

 

 

 

3.

If these are not to be found in the hadeeth, then at least come up with an exact date, month and year of hijrah from the history of Islam when these names were adopted as your identity.

 

 

We can skip this question as the earlier discussion already answers it.

 

 

4.

What were you famously known as before adopting these names?

 

We were famously known as Muslims until many deviant groups started arising in the Muslim Ummah as earlier discussed.

 

5.

Why have you forsaken your previous title?

 

We have not forsaken our previous title, we always use it when we confront Christians or Hindus etc. but when it comes to deviant sects attributing themselves to Islam, we mention ourselves as Sunni Muslims or Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah.

 

6.

According to your sect, an introduction of any new thing to Islam constitutes bid'a, therefore to effectuate such an introduction is also a bid'a, so who was the person responsible for introducing this bid'a?

 

Bida is an innovation in the religious matters. As the name Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah was used in the wake of new deviant groups attributing themselves to Islam, hence it is not a Bida.  

 

7.

Could you provide decisive evidence with regards to the meanings of Sunni, Ahl Sunnah and Ahl'ul Sunnah wal Jamaah?

 

Sunni means the follower of Sunnah. Ahlus Sunnah has the same meaning, and Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah means the followers of Sunnah and the main body of Muslinms (i.e. Jama'ah). Since I know that there is no difference of view regarding that, hence I don't need to go back to the books of grammar.

 

8.

Which one is the most ancient of the three titles?

 Which one amongst shia, shia imamiyah, shia imamiyah ithna ashariya , or twelver shia is the most ancient one?

 

9.

Which one of the three titles do you consider the best?

Which one amongst shia, shia imamiyah, shia imamiyah ithna ashariya ,  twelver shia, millat-e-jafriyah or shia imamiyah ithna ashariya usooli, or ithna ashariyah imamiyah jafriyah etc etc etc do you consider the best?

 

10.

Why are the remaining two of lesser merit? Which one of those two is the least and what is the reason behind it?

Congratulation for asking such rubbish questions which proves nothing and if you consider them of some value, the same goes for you, now tell us, which of the so many names of your sect, do you consider the best, and why the remaining are of lesser merit and which one is the least and the reasons behind it. Good luck.