Response to Shia Accusation that Our Website Lied; Women Do NOT Inherit Land in Shia Hadith

07/06/2010 06:07

 

Response to Shia Accusation that Our Website Lied; Women Do NOT Inherit Land in Shia Hadith

 

We have received a few emails on this matter, and therefore we thought it appropriate to clear up the matter and refute the Shia accusations made against our website.

 

Shia says

 

On your website, you have quoted this Hadith:

“A woman will not inherit anything of land and fixed property.” (Tahdhib al-Ahkam, vol. 9 p. 298; al-Istibsar, vol. 4 p. 152)

In fact, this is a complete lie! The actual Hadith is:

“A woman will not inherit anything of land and fixed property from her husband.”(Tahdhib al-Ahkam, vol. 9 p. 298; al-Istibsar, vol. 4 p. 152)

But you have so conveniently cut off the rest of the Hadith! You have accused the Shia of Half Hadith-ing; well, who is doing it now?

I have attached the scanned page in Arabic, and I have circled very clearly “from her husband” so that you can read it yourself. I demand that you remove this page from your site to maintain your intellectual honesty and apologize to your readers! May Allah blacken your face and curse you Abu Bakr lovers.

Scanned Attachment:

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Response by Team Ahlel Bayt:

Thank you for providing us with this scan, which will serve as a proof against YOUR OWN manipulations and lies. Now let us all look at the scan you provided us with; if we look in the top left corner, we read that you have provided us the scan for page 151 of Volume 4 of al-Istibsar. And yet, our website did not cite any Hadith on page 151, but rather the Hadith we cited is on page 152! Notice:

Shia says
On your website, you have quoted this Hadith:

 

“A woman will not inherit anything of land and fixed property.” (Tahdhib al-Ahkam, vol. 9 p. 298; al-Istibsar, vol. 4 p. 152)

And yet your scan is of page 151, as clearly indicated by your scan! You have circled the words “from your husband” in the scan, but these words do not appear in the Hadith we cited, which is on page 152! See:

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Your accusation is that the Ahlel Bayt website truncated a Hadith and that we cut off the words “from her husband”. Then why didn’t you provide us a scan of this Hadith to prove us wrong? Instead, you provided a different Hadith altogether and then circled “from her husband” there. But we did not quote that Hadith, but a different Hadith altogether, which is not on page 151 but on page 152!

If we look at the two Hadith you circled in your scan, we see that they read:

( 570 ) 1 - Ann al-mar’ata la tarithu min tarikati zawjiha… (A woman does not inherit from her husband’s legacy.)

( 571 ) 2 - Ann al-mar’atu la tarithu mimma taraku zawjuha… (A woman does not inherit from her husband.)

On the other hand, the Hadith that we quoted comes on page 152, and reads as follows:

( 572 ) 3 - An-nisaau la yarithna min al-ardhee wala min al-’aqaari shayyan. (A woman will not inherit anything of land and fixed property.)

In the original Arabic text, the full Hadith reads:

( 572 ) 3 - النساء لا يرثن من الأرض ولا من العقار شيئا

This is the complete Hadith, without any additions nor deletions. We challenge you to provide the scan of page 152, instead of page 151! In fact, it is you who is guilty of truncating the matter; your scan was deliberately cut off at page 151. If you had only provided the VERY NEXT LINE on page 152, you would have found the Hadith that we quoted!

What you chose to do instead was lie and claim that the Hadith was on page 151. The two Hadiths you circled in the scan were Hadiths 570 and 571, whereas the Hadith we cited was Hadith 572. What deception! But your lies did not stop there; not only did you provide a different Hadith altogether, but you also provided a bogus translation of it. You circled the Hadith on page 151 and claimed that it translated to: “A woman will not inherit anything of land and fixed property from her husband”, when in fact the Hadith you circled translates to “A woman does not inherit from her husband…”

You falsely claimed that we at Ahlel Bayt truncated the Hadith and cut out the words “from her husband”, when in fact, the Hadith does not at all contain said words. Read:

( 572 ) 3 - An-nisaau la yarithna min al-ardhee wala min al-’aqaari shayyan. (A woman will not inherit anything of land and fixed property.)

( 572 ) 3 - النساء لا يرثن من الأرض ولا من العقار شيئا

You lied about the page number. You said:

Shia says
The actual Hadith is:

 

“A woman will not inherit anything of land and fixed property from her husband.” (Tahdhib al-Ahkam, vol. 9 p. 298; al-Istibsar, vol. 4 p. 152)

And yet the two Hadiths you circled in the scan are on page 151, as is clearly visible by viewing the top left corner of your scan.

You tried to imply that the Hadith we quoted on our website was the same one you circled on your scan, when in fact they are completely different Hadiths altogether. The difference is NOT only in the “from her husband” ending, but rather the Hadiths are different from beginning to end. The Hadith we quoted says “An-nisaau la yarithna” whereas the Hadith you quoted says “Ann al-mar’ata la tarithu”. Completely different wording, so how can you claim it is the same?

Our Challenge

We challenge you Shia to provide us the proper scan of page 152 of al-Istibsar (vol 4), the very next page to what you provided us the scan for. We dare you to circle and highlight the Hadith on the top of page 152. Then we shall see who is the liar and who is telling the truth!

We now direct the Shia reader to their very own website: the book al-Istibsar is available on Al-Shia.com, so let us now see who is the truthful and who is the liar.

Al-Shia.com says


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(572) 3 - يونس بن عبدالرحمن عن محمد بن حمران عن زرارة ومحمد بن مسلم عن أبي جعفر عليه السلام قال: النساء لا يرثن من الارض ولا من العقار شيئا.

Translation: Yunus bin Abdur-Rahman from Muhammad bin Hamran from Zararah and Muhammad bin Muslim from Abi Jafar [A.S.] who said: “A woman will not inherit anything of land and fixed property.”

Conclusion

To conclude the matter, the Sunni argument holds: women do not inherit anything of land or fixed property according to Shia Hadith and their Infallible Imams. The irony is that even when the Shia propagandists try to expose others by calling them liars, the only way they can do this is by themselves lying! Notice that it was the Shia here who accused us of manipulating texts, but we have here proven that in reality it is these same Shia who are the ones guilty of horrible manipulation of the texts, obfuscation of page numbers, and false translations.

The Ahlel Bayt website was founded on the basis of intellectual honesty. There are many websites that rely on sensationalism, but we are not such a site. What sets the Ahlel Bayt website apart from the rest is that we do not rely on sensationalism, and we are always honest. Whilst it is a part of the Shia faith to lie, it is considered Haram (forbidden) in our religion and we shall never do it.

May Allah guide us to the Truth and expose the liars.

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